when a DBR Mission humps a commencal - you have once again another ripoff design that is claiming originality....oh wait, let's add a sticker pack it too to make it more grassroots! don't forget the laces for the rider to wear so he can be different - just like the rest of his friends!

Dude - Fully agreed man
it amazes me how sensitive everyone can get about claiming originality! then you have the magazine whores, and the wannabes, and then the anti wannabes and all sorts or hardcore wannabes - shit man this is Just bikes...and yes it is just another bike that looks like another that is a mirror image of that other, and a carbon copy of the last but built up differently. In the end it really boils down to what company you wanna support, what colour you want, and who backs their warranty, and how they go about doing it. Some people like big box companies, some people like the small ones and there are issues with all. I agree with UNDERCOVERFREAK - they all work in a similar fashion and yes you have some Jamis in there, and some intense and whatnot with some mounts moved here and there, and gussets added and removed...Bikes do break at some point in time depending on how you use it as metal will eventually fail under stress. The thing that kills me is how everyone makes such a big F%$&ing deal about originality when there hasn't really been anything that New and exciting in frame designs unless you want to go all out with Gear Box stuff, or some of that out of control Nicolai designs!

as for ROUGHANDTANGLE - I am all down for checking out a new company where someone does have an engineering background and does have an understanding that can eliminate that whole"trial and error process" being awesome riders like kevin and kyle is one thing however being a truely proficient bike designer and engineer is another....... so bring on Cokane bike co coz this industry is in serious need of some better engineered bikes!